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This discussion is about Willowemoc Creek

My friend Ian throws a fine cast in a section of river that's open year-round. From the bridge, we spotted a very nice brown nymphing, but neither of us could get it to take. From Willowemoc Creek in New York. Female Attenella margarita (Little Western Blue-Winged Olive) Mayfly Dun from Willowemoc Creek in New York From Willowemoc Creek in New York. Female Attenella margarita (Little Western Blue-Winged Olive) Mayfly Dun from Willowemoc Creek in New York From Willowemoc Creek in New York.

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AdirmanApril 11th, 2012, 6:38 am
Monticello, NY

Posts: 505		No surprise here considering we had virtually no snow this winter in the catskills but man, is the water low for this time of year!! Hard to sneak up on 'em and I'm seeing very few bugs!! Anyone see whats hatching up here in the catskills? I'm VERY worried that by July, the rivers will be dried up!!
PaulRobertsApril 11th, 2012, 12:07 pm
Colorado

Posts: 1776		Scary.
WbranchApril 11th, 2012, 6:58 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2733		I fished in the western Catskills last week for three days (Tue - Thu) It was very windy all three days and the water was very cold but there were awesome hatches on Tue and Thu and a good emergence on Wed.

Tue I floated and I can say with certainty that it was too far a float (seven miles) with a strong upstream wind.

Put in around 11:30 and around 2:00 I started to see some Hendricksons. By 2:30 the middle of the river was just littered with thousands of duns but the incessant wind pretty much knocked the fish down. Whenever the wind stopped the trout immediately began to rise. I landed ten fish, two browns and eight rainbows all on #14 thorax Hendricksons.

Wednesday it was cooler and windier but around noon there was a very good Paralep emergence and while I wade fished I found many more rising fish and they were pushovers. Locate a rise, cover the fish, hook the fish, hang on! I landed fifteen good fish.

Thursday was colder still (if that was possible) and I wore a cotton T-shirt, long sleeve UA shirt, 100 weight fleece, flannel shirt, 200 weight fleece jacket and my Gore-tex rain jacket and of course ear muffs and fingerless gloves.

The Paraleps were really epic and at one point there was a flat rock at my feet that was out of the water. I looked down on it and at least 100 duns were on it drying their wings. Again when the wind stopped, even if for just a minute, you needed to be ready. Not dicking around tying on a fly or lighting a cigarette but ready to throw accurately to a target. Cover the fish and it would eat. I caught less fish but targeted larger fish I'd seen the day before. Landed eight including two I actually measured (opposed to guesstimating) and one was 18 1/2" and the other 20".

I saw very high numbers of Paraleps, Ep subvaria, and good numbers of Apple caddis. All of these at least three weeks early relative to more normal temperature years.

The water is terribly low for this time of year. Thank God the early warm temperatures are over and the water is still very cold. As soon as a warming trend hits the area those low waters are going to warm very quickly. Water levels as of earlier today were;

EB @ Harvard - 125 cfs - a joke for April 11; too low to get a float
EB @ Fishs Eddy - 460 cfs - still fishable
WB @ Stilesville - 174 cfs - very low but there are bugs
WB @ Hale Eddy - 277 cfs - unfloatable but very wadeable and there are bugs
Main @ Lordville - 1010 cfs - Floatable but will scrape in some areas
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
AdirmanApril 12th, 2012, 8:11 am
Monticello, NY

Posts: 505		I'll bet casting was a chore in all that wind!!
PaulRobertsApril 12th, 2012, 11:08 am
Colorado

Posts: 1776		Beats staining the house, re-finishing the decks, building a retaining wall, cleaning the chicken coop, cutting and stacking firewood, ...
WbranchApril 12th, 2012, 11:31 am
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2733		Yes, but as Paul mentions it is better than many things - besides when the going gets tough the tough get going and I caught two dozen wild fish when other guys were cry babying about the wind.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
PaulRobertsApril 12th, 2012, 12:03 pm
Colorado

Posts: 1776		I have a rule about weather, and fishing partners...

Go anyway, you are often surprised. If you don't go, you get what you expected. This past fall I hunted in 75mph winds that toppled trees in the forest -I could hear em going over. I hunted the lees and took a buck late in the day.

As to fishing partners... If we agree to meet at, say 4am, and then they are not there, I do not call or knock on the door. I'm gone.

Both these things are not bravado -they are simply what's required to meet quality whereever and whenever it may present itself.
WbranchApril 12th, 2012, 3:38 pm
York & Starlight PA

Posts: 2733		Paul wrote;

"If we agree to meet at, say 4am, and then they are not there, I do not call or knock on the door. I'm gone."

I agree wholeheartedly! When I was a young man, maybe 18 or 19, I told my still best friend I'd be at his house at 4:30 and to be waiting for me outside as I wouldn't beep the horn or knock on the door. He wasn't outside and I left. He was never late again.

Now with new occasional fishing acquaintances I tell them the same thing - if you want to go with me be prompt or go with someone else who isn't anxious to get there.
Catskill fly fisher for fifty-five years.
GldstrmSamApril 12th, 2012, 5:44 pm
Fairbanks, Alaska

Posts: 212
...cleaning the chicken coop, cutting and stacking firewood, ...


Thats sounds like what I did do yesterday and will be doing later this month :)
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the worm. ~Patrick F. McManus

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